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authorD Delmar Davis <don@suspectdevices.com>2025-12-13 20:20:19 -0800
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+# Visual Modeling
+
+Been thinking about this book a lot lately
+![myprecious.jpg](images/VisualModelingWith/myprecious.jpg)
+
+Looked it up before I wandered around the house to find it. [The amazon price was outrageous ($172.57) ](https://www.amazon.com/Visual-Modeling-Logo-Structured-Exploring/dp/0262530694) the apparently [AbesBooks was worse ($241.62) ](https://www.abebooks.com/Visual-Modeling-Logo-Structured-Approach-Seeing/31827290071/bd
+).
+
+Q: "Is this the same logo I used on an Apple IIe in elementary school to draw on the screen?"
+
+ME: "This book takes the whole vector based stuff and turns it into a way to think about math, computers and art."
+
+Q: "Huh"
+ME: /me goes to look up turntle graphics in python.
+
+ME: I would loan you my copy of it but then I would have to send you veiled threats 20 years later when I can't find it digitally let alone on paper #lookingatyoujdhildebrandt
+And I would buy a copy to loan but apparently now its stupidly expensive.
+
+ME: Also in the mit press logo books from the late 80s [Turtle Geometry](https://www.abebooks.com/Turtle-Geometry-Computer-Medium-Exploring-Mathematics/32225860932/bd): The Computer as a Medium for Exploring Mathematics (Artificial Intelligence) by Abelson, Harold, diSessa, Andrea: Good (1986) | Wonder Book
+Free Shipping - ISBN: 9780262510370 - Soft cover - The MIT Press - 1986 - Condition: Good - Good condition. A copy that has been read but remains intact. May contain markings such as bookplates, stamps, limited notes and highlighting, or a few light stains. - Turtle Geometry: The Computer as a Medium for Exploring Mathematics
+
+Q: Crazy, I never knew it as anything but a toy
+
+Back when I was young and smart I spent a lot of time thinking about this turtle geometry stuff (really just vector stuff) but mostly wound up doing real art with a chalk compass and oil pastels meditating on Euclid
+Edited6m
+
+- https://www.abebooks.com/Visual-Modeling-Logo-Structured-Approach-Seeing/31827290071/bd
+- https://www.amazon.com/Visual-Modeling-Logo-Structured-Exploring/dp/0262530694
+
+![trees.jpg](images/VisualModelingWith/trees.jpg)
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